With the latest insanity surrounding the 2016 Presidential election it’s over for Trump. Not that he was any miraculous savior but I was at least hoping his election to the White House would have bought us more time. President Hillary Clinton is all but assured.
The outrage over Trumps lewd comments is justified however let’s have a little perspective here. Trump said bad things while Liberal politicians do bad things – and get a pass. Look at the evil which Obama and Hillary have promoted. Obama admitted to smoking pot and using cocaine – for Liberals “no problem”. Hillary defended a child rapist and laughed about about it – Liberals “no problem”. Bill Clinton committed rape and adultery – Liberals “no problem”.
For those that say the entire system is corrupt and voting is a waste of time I would have to say after this election I will agree. I do believe Trump was different and an outsider – thus the reason the Republican establishment is against him, Libertarians are against him, and the Democratic establishment is against him.
Hillary Clinton’s election will be the final nail in the coffin for this country.
So – what do we do? I can tell you I will be done with politics. Many would say that decision is well overdue. So be it. With the political landscape changing and the increasing division within this country “going gray” is a prudent course of action. We’ll discuss that more later. “Fred” recently commented – “Keep prepping …….and focus on local elections and what local politicians can do to screw you.”
Sounds good to me.
Rourke
I hold little hope for this country. Based on my conversations with younger (40’s) people, their hope is fading fast. They are beginning to question the worth of working and paying the exorbitant taxes Clinton will place on the middle class. All I can do is continue to prep and try to prepare my family for what is coming.
John, you’re right. This election is showing just how rigged the system is. Our vote means nothing. If Hillary takes the White House, I will no longer worry with the effort of voting.
I have to agree that the fix is in. Take the election fraud being investigated in Indiana and Ohio as prime examples…and the election hasn’t even happened yet. However, with that said, desperation does strange things to people,. The libs/Dems had to go back 11 years to find that “excerpt” of Trump saying what he said. However, the nation still has to be convinced that there is a double standard for conservatives and liberals. Witness what Rourke said in his comment.
If Hillary wins this election, and it looks like she will, my husband and I are done with voting forever. He’s taking his retirement at 62 and I am not going to wait until my full retirement age of 66, I will take my retirement at 63 or 64. If I wait any longer, there may not be any social security left. I KNOW there won’t be any for our son, who is 19.
We will just keep plugging away at our preps and hope for the best. And that is Trump somehow manages to get elected. Otherwise we can kiss our country a final good bye because it will never recover from Hillary if she wins.
Replace all current national officeholders. No more than 2 terms. Go gray man. Consider moving to redoubt or another state like Texas… but look out because Texas is being over run by liberals, what they have may not last long! That is all.
– Keep Looking UP
Forgot to say, I’m voting TRUMP.
I am a woman and will be voting for Trump. Who cares about comments made 11 years ago!! Guys I work with do the same thing today. The media is spewing their propaganda and I hope and pray it backfires in their face!!! The real eye opener is how corrupt the Republican Party has become…I am more ashamed of them and will vote them all out when given the chance!
Hope ? The only people I know that are overtly hopeful are very young or sheep.. and liberals that will get what they want .. total control my .02
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I have seen an awful lot of George S’s son recently and have never seen hi ever before .. that means something .. not sure what .. but something
I think it is unlikely anything truly awful will happen, and not immediately if it does, just more of the same collective socialism but the rate will increase.. 6 – 12 months maybe .. One exception might be major metros post election .. reasons don’t matter to some folks..
Hmmm.. Well the Local politics is a good idea.. I live near a small out of the way community that recently lost it’s charter due to similar behavior to the Liberals. It’ll be a while before anyone gets around to me, but when they retract resources to central larger communities , to defend against the upheaval that surely will come .. security will be on me. as with any small community I expect.. If you don’t live around like minded people or if you don’t know them.. get to know them now so you know where you stand.. Just be Gray about it .. no declarations.. just ask and listen and keep score ..
Fill your tank at 1/2 instead of a a quarter or below… add a few stabilized gas cans and cycle them in.
Step up food and caching / pre-positioning..
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Finish up projects that need items that might be umm .. tagged for scrutiny after the election “not to be obtuse .. just watching what I say”.. Spend that money now..
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Stock up on meds.. no really ..
If they prop up Obummer care (and they will) .. it will likely become single payer government with new rules and little or no choice.. people in Canada die waiting in line all the time.. or they are wealthy and come to the US to get help now. .. I expect Docs to stop taking new patients etc.. and govt to control what can be prescribed when .. My HMO does it now.. based on money not health
If fuel goes high .. coal goes away .. energy will become expensive as will everything that travels by truck .. Develop local sources for what you use.. grow that you can ..
My worst thought would be general upheaval and trucks stop running because of theft and vandalism. That’s is extreme and unlikely but possible… but 3 days away from SNAP and food failures.. if so have enough to hunker down if needed.
I’ll think a little speculation here .. If you have the means .. get some items that have value to trade and are durable.. just in case the paper or 1’s an zeros become worth less than is good .. or become inaccessible. My rule for me is .. don’t buy things that cannot be turned back in to dollars or whatever easily… Consider it insurance.. you never WANT to use it but if you need it .. it’s important.. Like a fire extinguisher..
Look at what you have and highlight the gaps.. do what you can to fill them… There are things I can do without in favor of more things I can’t. I don’t think I will ever be DONE.. I have to be ok with that and do all I can.
Remember government in general looks for a crisis to say “we’re going to do this or that because we are here to help and protect you .. and it will be temporary until the crisis is resolved..” Who defines what is a Crisis ? When would a crisis be over ? Who decides that ? guess. It will likely be localized and not national though.
On the gray thing .. words matter.. and specific words matter a lot.. as of last month I now see items I shopped for, displayed on a site I have never been to before and don’t have a login on.. On that line I think it will be important to have communications that are not part of the internet or known cellular accounts .. IMO we talk indirectly about everything or not at all, unless it is with people we know well and trust.
I can’t get all caught up or I’ll get so mad and or depressed I’ll grind to a halt..
Action rules.. so lets live live we mean it .. as close to the edge as we can get and stay safe.. I will do my best to enjoy every day. It’s a gift. It’s why it’s called the present.
Hang in the and look up
GG58
This article is a response that the left is hoping for. Don’t let the media hype keep you from voting. Clinton is desperate and will try anything. I don’t think most people are buying the latest incident as that important considering what Bill did (does), and hil condoned. It was bad, but a personal conversation. I think Trump has grown since then. Keep a positive attitude. The alternative to Trump is unthinkable.
vandal67 – I will be voting for Trump in November. After that – assuming he loses – all bets are off.
I’ll vote Trump.. But one thing this HAS done is give the small group of established but powerful Republicans the ability to say they will not support Trump. It was manufactured, and collaborated on between Dems and those repubs.. IMO.
This is a prep site so I won’t go much further.. But in that we can for our preps, say that we should not stop or slow down.. and should take the “Fix” as something we can’t do anything about.. not yet anyway.. except vote.. That is my duty.. Their duty is to do as the constitution instructs and demands.. A particular set of voters is being marginalized, because we were winning despite negative campaigning attempts.. So they did something even more ridiculous .. it’s the first bipartisan thing they have done in 8 years.. I can’t say they won’t do the right thing until they haven’t, but I doubt it.. Then we’ll see… Pray for the best and prepare for everything else..
Agreed. I will still be voting for Trump. Not buying into the liberal media liars. Especially, after the recent release of hillary and POS Lena Durham talking about Lenny Kravitz private parts and wanting to see them.
Self-righteous, pompus, hypocrites..pfffft. Where is the uproar on that? They are so DESPERATE, because Trump is dominating and will expose their evil. Here is an article from a very liberal website
How Hillary Loses
Donald Trump can actually win if Clinton makes these four mistakes. Spoiler alert: She’s already making all of them.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/2016-election-hillary-clinton-campaign-loses-defeated-donald-trump-213924
I’m pretty sure that even the popular vote will be traded away in the EC.. or they will attempt something procedural.. They don’t have to win out right they just need to ensure that Trump does get 270 EC votes.. Then it woudl be decided by the House which will be HRC .. the way they are behaving..
Not that he he can’t win .. he can .. the worst thing they did recently is attack him out right .. It’s like attacking a brother I can’t stand .. I can abuse him but I’ll hurt you if you try to .. so they circled the wagons.. we protect our fool because he is our.. or something like that..
I’l vote but prepare .. and have several things in the works .. I’ll have to thank the election cycle for driving me harder than I probably would have otherwise..
Yup.. I’ve talked to several people who seem to have shaken their heads and woken up .. late but awakening.. And know of several guys whose wives have come fully on board feeling the pressure or the craziness..
Might not be a bad thing .. fear and pain are two good motivators.. The prospect of pain later promotes the fear now .. and what feeds most of the hysteria.
Voting Trump but not voting for any other republicans and if I cant leave the others unchecked I will vote independent…
The whole thing scares me. I’ve never liked Trump, but he’s better than the Clintons any day. What we need in the White House is a soldier — someone with combat experience. With China buying up everything and Putin expanding his military, we’re sitting ducks right now. As far as Trump’s comments, men are pigs. Sorry, guys, but you really are sometimes. So what? I spent most of my life around men and know when to have selective hearing. If you’re not in my face describing me with obscenities I could care less what you discuss with your buddies. I’ve wondered for a while if Trump’s real plan is to win the election and then step down and let his VP take over. Unfortunately, “they” made it clear a long time ago that Bill and Hillary can do whatever they want without repercussions, so I do think we’re completely screwed at this point.
I hear you SingleMom. America’s leadership is in a weakened position at the moment .. predators being what they are .. opportunistic.. Will take advantage .. I believe what we are seeing is positioning.. just in case there is an opportunity.. The Russians are Noisy always have been politically .. lots of bluster and saber rattling.. The Chinese are quieter .. more stealthy . no rattling just planning.. that is (CHICOM – PRC)… We do have our work cut out for us .. but we’ll pull through it..
You have no reason to believe this, but I have never been that pigish .. and I am sure my wife woudl agree.. I have a big mouth , but don’t usually use that kind of language.. innuendo yes .. sarcastic humor absolutely .. never have .. I played football 3rd grade through college.. baseball.. track.. , and stayed in the gym fro 40 years .. I’d say the majority of guys are more respectful than that in the south.. That being said it’s not like I haven’t heard worse from those guys that like to brag.. and Trump does that .. maybe he’s compensating for something 🙂 .. it’s not like its money .. but it woudl explain a lot.. ok I’ll stop ..
Hopefully many readers of this site are at or near their goals for self defense procurement. Get your weapons, ammo, magazines, night vision, armor, etc. now while they are still affordable and available. And be thinking about where you will be hiding them. Hold on to your hats because things are going to get scary if Hildabeast gets in. America that I grew up in it is almost finished sorry to say. The communists are past the gates and are inside our walls.
I agree with most of the post here. Continue to prepare for the worst, but I truly believe we are underestimating Trumps support. Remember who controls the media, they will say anything. I will be voting for Trump, the lesser of 2 evils, and I think he still has a chance.
The mainstream media is using its power and influence in hopes that enough people don’t vote, because they are convinced the situation is hopeless, and Hillary wins by default.
Regardless of how bad it looks, get out and vote. Don’t throw in the towel just yet.
If Hillary does win, the supreme court will be her first target. It will take decades to undo the damage, if ever. Our country may never recover.
As for staying “grey”, not me, I am very outspoken in my community, and will not be silenced.
Don’t buy into the lies, stand firm. You should not be surprised Snopes.com says this is not true. After all Zuckerburge, Google, etc are all in bed with hiltlery
Hillary Clinton is NOT THERE – uses GREEN SCREEN at her rally so she can stay in bed!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/539u7b/hillary_clinton_is_not_there_uses_green_screen_at/
Sorry, we are well past the time of pointing and yelling ‘LOOK, GREEN SCREEN! CHILD ACTOR! VOTER FRAUD! or any number of the thousands of other now daily outrages. People don’t care, at least not enough of them. It’s no longer simply the choosing of sides and the selective outrage normally associated with it, it’s complete apathy.
Our government has descended into 3rd worldish activities and we barely notice. To think that here in America our own government would weaponize various departments like the IRS, EPA and others and use these weapons against large numbers of citizens, all without any blowback. Not only did it get barely a shrug, many cheered it on.
Now, after emailgate and the FBI’S collusion we know just how complete the cancer has spread. There’s nothing that has been left untouched. There’s nothing left to save. Its over. No help is coming.
It’s time to walk away. It’s time for a new strategy with completely different goals……
Yup.. The American Reformation is not about gaining back what we had .. that got us here.. but going back to the constitution and moving forward with decisions and modifications to prevent us getting here again. Every 70 – 80- years in recent history we have had to do something violent because the intervening generations have forgotten the cost of indecision and prevarication. Freedom has to be a living process, and not something that has to be striven for and the stop working when the job is done… so the next generation says the old ideas are outdated.. They aren’t but our common understanding could be when not constantly reinforced through education and supported at all levels across the board. Lazy, greedy, selfish and something for nothing people have always existed and we have to have a plan for not allowing ourselves to give away liberty and freedom in the name of charity.. or high-minded pseudo altruism, or worse loyalist nationalism. I’m about to get going and write an ebook .. so I’ll stop.
Good comment John
Oh I agree, but it’s equally important to keep things in perspective. Especially, if it influences emotions one way or another. To pretend that it doesn’t is even more foolish and not wise. For example.
CORRUPT MEDIA Lies About Hillary’s OSU Rally to Make Her Appear Popular
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/corrupt-media-lies-hillarys-osu-rally-make-appear-popular/
People would see her as winning and stop fighting. The Govt has got some serious clean up even if Trump gets in office.Our fight,(Conservatives) is still not over if he wins.
I’m envious of your optimism but I think it’s misplaced. Even if Trump wins, (incredibly unlikely) he represents merely a speed bump on our way down. I’ll grant you, I’ll take that speed bump with enthusiasm, but we all know how it will play out over the long haul.
We lost the educational system way back when. The decades of academia indoctrination combined with a captive press, and widespread obliviousness and passivity, and an exploding underclass (dependency class) will be the end to our republic. The indoctrinated, the needy and the foolish will soon lay the course of this country’s future. They will decide it’s fate, not us. Confidence is justifiably low on their being up to the task. This is our reality, and as Philip K. Dick said- “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.”
There is a question every intellectually honest person should be forced to answer. ‘if the government discovered the means (a magic spell, potion or drug) to make all the citizens comply with their wishes. To make them obedient, would they use it?……
If you believe they would, then you must also believe that anything short of that would also be used. With our system, expanding voting fraud is all they would need…..
Ah..speaking of which.
The Real Battle, is The Battle For Your Mind.
Researchers and political analysts frequent CTH because we bring you hard, factual, and fully cited research enabling you to make up your own mind about the headlines.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/latest-nbcwsj-poll-utter-nonsense
Yes, the poll is propaganda done by an outfit connected to Priorities USA, yet widely presented as truth. Another example of our decay….
Martin Treptow..!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVecpn3DUHc
I will be voting for Trump Locker room talk is common around lots of men- no big deal but Hillary and Bill have abused woman. I will still always vote-but I wont be listening to the news when shes commenting.=God forbid that she is ever President.
The media is trying to ruin Trump(except for Fox news) Lightning